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Some FFs Will Still Visit NYC Nov. 18

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LON SLEPICKA, HEATHER CASPI and DIONNE WALKER
Firehouse.com News

Firefighters and departments planning to attend the memorial service for fallen comrades in New York City, Nov. 18, are for the most part canceling any plans they made in wake of the postponement of the event.

A survey of several departments and union locals around the country found most expressing the feelings of Rochester, New York Local 1071 treasurer Gary DiNoto. "We will be down there when they want us. For us it is whatever they need, whenever they need it."


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Bad feelings between the International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF) with the local unions, and Mayor Rudolph Giuliani’s office and the FDNY administration, partly played a role in the postponement.

FDNY said many of the families of the fallen firefighters thought it was too soon to hold a memorial. The IAFF said the administration was showing too little respect for the firefighters when they cut the number of firefighters at ground zero looking for their missing comrades.

The IAFF has said the memorial service will be rescheduled when newly elected Michael Bloomberg takes over the Mayor’s office next year.

The 250 to 300 firefighters who planned to attend from Rochester are waiting to hear about future plans DiNoto said. "We understand the deepness of the problem. It is emotional for us up here and we can imagine what it is like for them." No one complained about the postponement he said.

Firefighters with Honor Guards in Richmond, VA and Charlotte, NC have also put aside their plans until new arrangements have been made.

Bob McCarthy, president of The Professional Fire Fighters of Massachusetts said they had two full Amtrak trains reserved for the trip to New York city but have since cancelled those and the rooms they had reserved. "We continue to go down to attend the funerals but as far as the memorial, we are just waiting for the International to give us the word."

But Bill Kugelman, President of Local 2 in Chicago said, "we are still going come hell or high water." It may be down to about 200 from the planned 400 to 500 firefighters from Chicago, but they still planned to be present in force on Nov. 18.

Kugelman said they plan to attend any funerals or memorials for firefighters that are being held during the time they are there.

The California Professional Firefighters planned to send a contingent of people to the memorial Service. They cancelled their official trip after the postponement of the service, but expect some members from their organization, as well as others around the state, will still go to New York on their own and attend the individual funerals scheduled for that weekend.

L.A. County Firefighters IAFF Local 1014 said they too cancelled their trip, but have had members attending funerals on their own all along, and expect they will continue to do so.

The Fort Worth Fire Fighters Association cancelled their trip as well, and officials there were not aware of whether any individuals would fly out on their own.

The Seattle Fire Fighters Local 27 reported at least one member still going, and possibly more despite the cancellation of their trip.

The Professional Fire Fighters of Arizona said they will have seven people going; one as an official representative, two who were asked to come out because of fund raising they did, and several going on their own. The rest of their 50 or so members who planned to attend the event are waiting until it is rescheduled.

"At the request of the IAFF we’re not sending anyone at this point until they find out the new date," said a spokesman at Local 341 in Houston.

"We were trying to charter a plane for our firefighters to go over there. A lot of people were interested," she said. "They’re all just wanting to go. Its something they feel they need to show up for and pay their respects."

According to several major hotels in New York City, most of the firefighters who were planning to come to town for the memorial service this weekend have cancelled their trips in light of the service's postponement.

The Manhattan East Suite Hotels chain and the Hilton Hotels chain had blocks of rooms set aside in NYC for those expected to attend the service, but called them off as the cancellations poured in.

A reservationist with Manhattan East said callers are commenting that they are sorry the event was cancelled, and look forward to rescheduling when a new date is set.

A Hilton reservationist said that even more people have been calling off trips to New York since Monday morning. "There have been a lot of cancellations, especially after the plane crash yesterday," he said.

One hotel that was hit extremely hard is the New Yorker Hotel on 8th Ave and 34th Street. They had over 500 reservations scheduled because of the memorial service, and now only one or two of those guests are still coming, said a reservationist named Lena. She said the plane crash yesterday didn't seem to affect reservations.

Other hotels that reported major cancellations for this weekend are the Crowne Plaza LaGuardia Airport and the Fitzpatrick Manhattan Hotel, which had guests planning to come all the way from Ireland for Sunday's postponed event.

However, at least one hotel is still expecting a full house this weekend. The Mayflower Hotel on the Park, at 15 Central Park West, is almost sold out for Saturday night.

"Actually we were expecting cancellations, but so far that hasn't happened," said a representative named Venus. She said they have only had an average number of cancellations, but aren't sure whether a flood of cancellations may come in at the last minute or if most of the guests are actually coming. She didn't know how many of the hotel's 365 rooms were reserved because of the memorial service, but said it was a lot.

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